palyne, :~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ : From: "Palyne Gaenir" <palyne at sciencehorizon.com> : : Now() gets the USER's now. GETDATE() is for the db. Is there a way : to say "now" for the "system" in a CFSET/CFPARAM? Palyne :~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <cfparam name="insert_time" default="#Now()#"> now() is the system date, not the user's date/time. if you want the user's date/time then you'll have to use javascript and be careful how you format it. good luck, .jeff name://jeff.howden game://web.development http://www.evolt.org jeff at members.evolt.org