Ok, great, now I understand... A few minutes poking around on the web also brought up the moock f.p.i. (Flash Player Inspector) at http://www.moock.org/webdesign/flash/detection/moockfpi/ Thanks to all cl If so will the VBScript mess up other browsers? > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~ppk/js/ under Miscellaneous = > Flash Detect. > Tested in IE5.5 with and without Flash. >