peter, :~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ : From: Peter-Paul Koch : : Then why not use their name to begin with? : Then the window is not renamed and the : other links will work fine. :~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ unfortunately there's no way of knowing what new name has been given to a window or to be able to account for all the names the various sites might use. even if you tried to request the name you'd run into security restrictions that'd prevent it. thanks, .jeff name://jeff.howden game://web.development http://www.evolt.org/ mailto:jeff at members.evolt.org