i built a chart in Flash because it's got some detail to it, and while i want the site to handle for 640x480 users, i also don't want to punish those at higher res with an itty-bitty chart... however, that durn thing won't display... at least not in the template i've built... but the same code displays the Flash just fine in an ultra-stripped HTML page... page it works in: http://algonquinstudios.com/table_1.asp page it don't wanna work in: http://algonquinstudios.com/flash_test.asp another version that won't scale: http://algonquinstudios.com/flash_test2.asp