There's some info on GetRows performance, including benchmarks, here: http://www.aspalliance.com/nothingmn/view.asp?aid=27 http://www.adopenstatic.com/experiments/recordsetpaging.asp Both excellent sources of nitty-gritty ASP info. HTH -- Veronica Yuill Moderator, I-Design http://www.adventive.com/lists/idesign/summary.html