><http://www.pirated-sites.com/archive/?archive=apple> speaking of pirated-sites.com, i wish those guys 1. had listed the last time evolt got ripped off (i think madhu and i both submitted it) and 2. would, um, borrow somebody's nav bar, because the links just don't work well, duh, no wonder, they've got onclick="" in them! what were they thinking??? rudy