Hi john how about using teleport pro. here is the address for the program. I have used it in the past http://www.tenmax.com/teleport/pro/home.htm -- *Javed Alam, *Ph.D. *Professor* *Civil/Environmental/Chemical Engineering Department* Youngstown State University Youngstown, Ohio 44555 Phone 330-941-3029 Fax 330-941-3265 e-mail jalam at cc.ysu.edu <mailto:jalam at cc.ysu.edu> web: http://www.eng.ysu.edu/~jalam/ <http://www.eng.ysu.edu/%7Ejalam/> ====================================================== "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own governors, must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives. A popular government without popular information or the means of acquiring it, is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy or perhaps both." - James Madison /(Fourth President of the United States)/ <http://opengov1.media.mit.edu/> "Facts are stupid things..." - Ronald Reagan /(40th President of the United States)/ <http://opengov1.media.mit.edu/> ========================================================