ppk, i've also experienced some nasty bugs with mac/ie5.2 on osx. most notable is that writing to the innerHTML property of an object takes an unusual amount of time. do it within a loop and the page will just sit there for ages with the busy cursor just spinning like mad. the decay isn't proportional either, it's exponential. .jeff Jeff Howden - Web Application Specialist Résumé - http://jeffhowden.com/about/resume/ Code Library - http://evolt.jeffhowden.com/jeff/code/