Try the CSS SelectOracle: <http://penguin.theopalgroup.com/cgi-bin/css3explainer/selectoracle.py> Which gives us this: Selector 1: ul > li Selects any li element that is a child of an ul element. Steve On Apr 16, 2004, at 9:30 AM, david.landy at somerfield.co.uk wrote: > I'm OK with basic stylesheet definitions eg a:hover > {color:red} etc, but things like "ul > li" stump me completely. Does > this > mean an unordered list that contains a list item? Help!