> > Also, have you played with the CSS List-o-matic: > > http://accessify.com/tools-and-wizards/developer-tools/list-o-matic/ > > guess where I got this code from correction: got it from http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal03.htm stupefying: it is definitely the float:left on the 'a' that's breaking it. now it's broken even worse, but in a different way :) more fooling around seems to be in order, but it'll have to wait 'til tomorrow. Jules and marc, I'll have a closer look at your sample snippets and let you know what I learn from it. thanks, y'all joel