Pardon me whilst I wipe the egg off my face and try another slice of humble pie. I think the HP product I mentioned is the HP Photosmart and the guy "Ben" on the HP sales help line told me that it must be a partnership with AOL or somebody. I think I got it wrong, in other words. It probably _is_ "send and receive email and photos without a PC". My bad. Sorry. I had that sales department jumping through the wrong hoops apparently, and they spent a good deal of time trying to help me out. I like HP, I was just in a confused state at that moment. It's a *tangent* anyway, almost a dreaded "threadjack". -- Steven Streight aka Vaspers the Grate Web Usability. Blog Revolution. Ecommerce. http://www.vaspersthegrate.blogspot.com http://www.blogcorevalues.blogspot.com http://my.opera.com/vaspers88/blog http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=vaspers http://droppingoutoftheblogosphere.pbwiki.com http://scifimicro.blog-city.com http://abandonedblog.blog-city.com http://my.opera.com/usability/blog