what's wrong with http://freekeywords.wordtracker.com/ http://www.keyworddiscovery.com/ Both of those are real search strings from real humans. I very much doubt that the question you want to ask would come within the ask500 guidelines http://docs.ask500people.com/doku.php?id=community_guidelines#q sounds like you expect too much for a free service - people are only going to answer your question if you pay them for their time. -- This is the gmail account of Stuart Young Pt Chev, Auckland, Aotearoa New Zealand