first of all, my apologies for attaching a gif the other day i've posted it on my evolt member site in case anybody's interested, or wants to rip it off (please, feel free) it's my BrainBench Certification Button -- http://members.evolt.org/rudy/brainbenchcertified.gif speaking of humourous sites, my alltime favourite is The Web Page from Hell http://www.ecnet.net/users/gas52r0/Jay/ some of the content is screamingly funny also, i recently (re)discovered Bud Uggly, which had been lost for so, so long http://wackyadvice.com/bud/home.html WARNING: you might have to ctrl-alt-del and relaunch your browser to regain control of things like the buttons, right-click, etc. rudy http://rudy.ca/