From david at gigawatt.com Thu Apr 10 14:16:06 2003 From: david at gigawatt.com (David Kaufman) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:16:06 -0400 Subject: [Theforum] Re: [thelist] What!? No t-shirt! [supporting evolt] References: <20030410153024.78283.qmail@web12601.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005101c2ff95$a317c850$1c06040a@david> Tom Dell'Aringa wrote: > > Has anyone at evolt 'officially' taken ownership of this? It seems to > be dying a slow death... I saw the page posted by aardvark of the old > designs..but other than that... i'm not "official", but i've playing with setting up caferess anyway for a friend so i went ahead and: http://www.cafeshops.com/evoltgear/ i'd be happy to volunteer to maintain it. i was thinking i could also build and host a staging site where evolters could contribute some hi-res images. that t-shirt is 300 DPI -- the logo is a puny tiny low-res web graphic, so first off i need an illustrator, PSD vector or paintshop pro vector layer with the logo and the font, so i can scale up and down -- we don't want to stretch a 150 pixel gif across a beach towel, now do we? cap and coffee cup coming Real Soon Now, -dave PS: the price mark-up is currently set to $4.00/item and payee info is currently set to the name and address info on http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/index.html#how (care of Marlene Bruce). but if that needs updating, it can be changed easily. From david at gigawatt.com Thu Apr 10 15:35:52 2003 From: david at gigawatt.com (David Kaufman) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 16:35:52 -0400 Subject: [Theforum] Re: [thelist] What!? No t-shirt! [supporting evolt] References: <0CEC8258A6E4D611BE5400306E1CC9271E4958@smtmb.tmc.local> Message-ID: <008401c2ffa0$c824cb60$1c06040a@david> Rob Smith wrote: > > Are the proceeds/profits going to CafePress or Evolt? cafepress get's $13.99 (+ whatever shipping charges, of course) for that particular t-shirt. and Evolt gets the other $4.01 :-) -dave From david at gigawatt.com Thu Apr 10 22:33:02 2003 From: david at gigawatt.com (David Kaufman) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 23:33:02 -0400 Subject: [Theforum] cool EvoltGear now available! -- support the evoltolution Message-ID: <00d401c2ffdb$0ef408f0$1c06040a@david> as a response to recent requests for cool evolt.org gear such as t-shirts, coffee mugs and sundries, i've spent the evening setting up EvoltGear. visit www.CafePress.com/EvoltGear to see the latest in colored, cubic fashion, humor and utility. the prices are a bit high, i know, but you'll sleep better knowing that $5.01 of every purchase goes straight to Evolt (except the $5 bumper sticker, which only pays us $2.51). *AND* (as if that weren't enough...) you'll be promoting the success of www.evolt.org by walking around with - a genuine evolt.org baseball cap - the obligatory t-shirt (with on the back) - drinking from a cofee mug and driving with: "workers of the web: evolt!" on your bumper! BUT WAIT! there's more: there's an Evolt mousepad, an Evolt wall clock, and coming soon: Stainless steel thermal coffee travel mugs, Teddy bears, Frizbees, Wall calendars, Backpacks, Tote bags, and even Lunchboxes! (for any kiddyvolters you might have scurrying around the house.) Also comin soon: how much would you pay for the Evolt Broser archive on a Evolt-branded silk-screened full color CD rom? pretty handy, eh? *STILL* not convinced? want to do more, you say? well, if you like CafePress's cool promotional items site so much that you decide to sign up and start your OWN store, use this handy-dandy referral link here, and Evolt will also collect a few cents of referral fees from your store's sales (at absolutely no cost to you, of course!) http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/storeref.aspx?refby=evoltgear have fun! -dave From roselli at earthlink.net Thu Apr 10 22:44:25 2003 From: roselli at earthlink.net (aardvark) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 23:44:25 -0400 Subject: [Theforum] Re: [---list] What!? No t-shirt! [supporting evolt] In-Reply-To: <005101c2ff95$a317c850$1c06040a@david> Message-ID: <3E9601D9.10544.911BE858@localhost> > From: "David Kaufman" [...] > that t-shirt is 300 DPI -- the logo is a puny tiny low-res web > graphic, so first off i need an illustrator, PSD vector or paintshop > pro vector layer with the logo and the font, so i can scale up and > down -- we don't want to stretch a 150 pixel gif across a beach towel, > now do we? [...] from a couple years ago: http://roselli.org/new_evolt/tshirt.asp includes the EPS of the logo that we used for the last shirt... server's acting up, so you may have to come back later... although you may wish to wait since i think martin already had something going... dunno... -- my latest book project: Web Graphics for Non-Designers http://amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1904151159/evoltorg02-20 ISBN: 1904151159 From neuro at well.com Fri Apr 11 04:43:32 2003 From: neuro at well.com (William Anderson) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:43:32 +0100 Subject: [Theforum] Re: [---list] What!? No t-shirt! [supporting evolt] References: <3E9601D9.10544.911BE858@localhost> Message-ID: <065201c3000e$d15a6410$c802a8c0@local.zensoft.net> aardvark wrote: > [snip] > > although you may wish to wait since i think martin already had > something going... dunno... Yeah, I appreciate the sentiment and all, but I wish folk would actually *discuss* things before launching off and doing their own things ... -- _ __/| ___ ___ __ _________ "When Microsoft Office is your only hammer, \`O_o' / _ \/ -_) // / __/ _ \ pretty much everything begins to look like =(_ _)=/_//_/\__/\_,_/_/ \___/ a nail. Or a thumb." -- Rob Pegoraro U - Ack! Phttpt! Thhbbt! neuro at well dot com http://neuro.me.uk/ From lists at mantruc.com Fri Apr 11 08:54:19 2003 From: lists at mantruc.com (javier velasco) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 09:54:19 -0400 Subject: [Theforum] Re: [---list] What!? No t-shirt! [supporting evolt] In-Reply-To: <065201c3000e$d15a6410$c802a8c0@local.zensoft.net> References: <3E9601D9.10544.911BE858@localhost> <065201c3000e$d15a6410$c802a8c0@local.zensoft.net> Message-ID: <3E96C90B.30002@mantruc.com> William Anderson wrote: > aardvark wrote: > >>[snip] >> >>although you may wish to wait since i think martin already had >>something going... dunno... > > > Yeah, I appreciate the sentiment and all, but I wish folk would actually > *discuss* things before launching off and doing their own things ... Yes, we must coordinate to act as a single group. I still value David's drive *a lot* (thanks!) David Kaufman wrote: > BUT WAIT! there's more: Wall calendars I'd happily donate some pictures for the calendar if there's interest :) From david at gigawatt.com Fri Apr 11 10:05:20 2003 From: david at gigawatt.com (David Kaufman) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:05:20 -0400 Subject: [Theforum] Re: [---list] What!? No t-shirt! [supporting evolt] References: <3E9601D9.10544.911BE858@localhost> <065201c3000e$d15a6410$c802a8c0@local.zensoft.net> Message-ID: <001701c3003b$c57e3900$1c06040a@david> William Anderson wrote: > aardvark wrote: >> [snip] >> >> although you may wish to wait since i think martin already had >> something going... dunno... sorry, i dunno either. theForum has been pretty quiet of late. > Yeah, I appreciate the sentiment and all, but I wish folk would > actually *discuss* things before launching off and doing their own > things ... i'm sorry. i launched off because it has been being discussed all week on theList, and that's all that was taking place... discussion. debate, counterpoint, yeahbuts and whatifs. i just got tired of debating t-shirt procurement technology and procedures as it was degrading my impulse to buy and wear one. i had no idea there was a year-old discussion, initiative and stalled project... but i can see how it got stalled. on theList, they were already discussing alternative vendors and european-based shirt printing locations. cafepress was a no-brainer. it costs us nothing. cafepress makes money, evolt makes money, evolters get gear. is that so hard? our fist four orders came from the 4 corners of the globe: Australia, France, California and New Jersey. i read somewhere that all buying is impulse buying. i must confess i actually did not finally get off my ass and do this for the greater good of the community. i got fed up waiting and decided to setup the cafepress store because i just wanted to upload a damn evolt logo and have them print *me* one darn shirt that i could actually wear, now. perhaps to the evolt t-shirt-commerce working group preliminary committee meetings... :-) of course, after having done so, i needed a coffee mug too, and one thing led to several others and, hey. although my interest was purely *self* interest, and motivated solely by increasing my own personal private level of coolness, i did remember to come back to the list and invite you all to buy some of them, too. and i did setup the checks to go to Marlene. it's been up around, what, 12 hours? and there have been 4 orders, for 9 items, totaling $157.97 paid, and there is a pending commission payment of $30.06 already. i am sorry for launching off. should i close it down until such a time as a committee can be commissioned to validate the html on the coffee mug? :-o -dave From elfur at elfur.is Fri Apr 11 12:09:09 2003 From: elfur at elfur.is (Elfur Logadottir) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:09:09 -0000 Subject: [Theforum] Re: [---list] What!? No t-shirt! [supporting evolt] References: <3E9601D9.10544.911BE858@localhost><065201c3000e$d15a6410$c802a8c0@local.zensoft.net> <001701c3003b$c57e3900$1c06040a@david> Message-ID: <0b9201c3004d$13a38070$0100a8c0@DWARFS> From: "David Kaufman" | >> although you may wish to wait since i think martin already had | >> something going... dunno... | | sorry, i dunno either. theForum has been pretty quiet of late. | | > Yeah, I appreciate the sentiment and all, but I wish folk would | > actually *discuss* things before launching off and doing their own | > things ... | | i'm sorry. i launched off because it has been being discussed all week | on theList, and that's all that was taking place... discussion. debate, | counterpoint, yeahbuts and whatifs. no, as i pointed out on thelist during that discussion was that this needed to be in touch with marketing and finance, and martin did just that, caught the momentum on thelist and started the work for a cafepress account. but for it to be within evolt.org standards and maintaining the correct branding ;) this needs to be approved and in touch with other things done (read: right hand needs to tell left hand what it does, before hand) | i just got tired of debating | t-shirt procurement technology and procedures as it was degrading my | impulse to buy and wear one. again, i applaude your initiative, but would've prefered discussion on the "backend" first, to make sure we're all working together. | cafepress was a no-brainer. it costs us nothing. cafepress makes | money, evolt makes money, evolters get gear. is that so hard? our fist | four orders came from the 4 corners of the globe: Australia, France, | California and New Jersey. no it's not that hard, and it is underway ... the suggestion and setup had been made, there was just a matter of finishing the product, or something like that. | i read somewhere that all buying is impulse buying. i must confess i | actually did not finally get off my ass and do this for the greater good | of the community. i got fed up waiting and decided to setup the | cafepress store because i just wanted to upload a damn evolt logo and | have them print *me* one darn shirt that i could actually wear, now. | perhaps to the evolt t-shirt-commerce working group preliminary | committee meetings... :-) | [snip] | | and i did setup the checks to go to Marlene. it's been up around, what, | 12 hours? and there have been 4 orders, for 9 items, totaling $157.97 | paid, and there is a pending commission payment of $30.06 already. do you have Marlene's correct address? she's recently relocated from San Fransisco to Washington or is this done digitally (have no idea) | i am sorry for launching off. should i close it down until such a time | as a committee can be commissioned to validate the html on the coffee | mug? hey don't apologize, but would appreciate a teeny weenie discussion on this end before announcing it to thelist. like i said before: right hand left hand stuff. elfur From elfur at elfur.is Fri Apr 11 12:15:18 2003 From: elfur at elfur.is (Elfur Logadottir) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:15:18 -0000 Subject: [Theforum] cool EvoltGear now available! -- support the evoltolution References: <00d401c2ffdb$0ef408f0$1c06040a@david> Message-ID: <0baa01c3004d$ede8bac0$0100a8c0@DWARFS> From: "David Kaufman" | visit www.CafePress.com/EvoltGear to see the latest in colored, cubic | fashion, humor and utility. oh, and about the products: the cubes and the letters together make up the logo. the cubes are never to be detached from the letters. other than that: me likes ;) thanks elfur From webguru at vsnl.net Fri Apr 11 12:44:00 2003 From: webguru at vsnl.net (Madhu Menon) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 23:14:00 +0530 Subject: [Theforum] Re: [---list] What!? No t-shirt! [supporting evolt] In-Reply-To: <0b9201c3004d$13a38070$0100a8c0@DWARFS> References: <3E9601D9.10544.911BE858@localhost> <065201c3000e$d15a6410$c802a8c0@local.zensoft.net> <001701c3003b$c57e3900$1c06040a@david> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030411231321.0451a8d0@127.0.0.1> At 10:39 PM 11-04-03, Elfur Logadottir wrote: >no, as i pointed out on thelist during that discussion was that this needed >to be in touch with marketing and finance, and martin did just that, caught >the momentum on thelist and started the work for a cafepress account. I think that the confusion was because Martin posted it to [steering] and not theforum. Madhu From elfur at elfur.is Fri Apr 11 13:58:28 2003 From: elfur at elfur.is (Elfur Logadottir) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 18:58:28 -0000 Subject: [Theforum] Re: [---list] What!? No t-shirt! [supporting evolt] References: <3E9601D9.10544.911BE858@localhost> <065201c3000e$d15a6410$c802a8c0@local.zensoft.net> <001701c3003b$c57e3900$1c06040a@david> <5.1.0.14.2.20030411231321.0451a8d0@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <0be801c3005c$56e1b690$0100a8c0@DWARFS> From: "Madhu Menon" | At 10:39 PM 11-04-03, Elfur Logadottir wrote: | >no, as i pointed out on thelist during that discussion was that this needed | >to be in touch with marketing and finance, and martin did just that, caught | >the momentum on thelist and started the work for a cafepress account. | | I think that the confusion was because Martin posted it to [steering] and | not theforum. yes, steering, but also finance and marketing, and my guess is that after a certain period of time or certain period of discussion which ever comes first, he would have brought it to theforum. all i'm saying is: discuss it with someone what you intend to do ... and then go and do it, because most of the time there's no objection. later elfur From webguru at vsnl.net Fri Apr 11 14:05:35 2003 From: webguru at vsnl.net (Madhu Menon) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 00:35:35 +0530 Subject: [Theforum] Re: [---list] What!? No t-shirt! [supporting evolt] In-Reply-To: <0be801c3005c$56e1b690$0100a8c0@DWARFS> References: <3E9601D9.10544.911BE858@localhost> <065201c3000e$d15a6410$c802a8c0@local.zensoft.net> <001701c3003b$c57e3900$1c06040a@david> <5.1.0.14.2.20030411231321.0451a8d0@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030412003445.042fa9f8@127.0.0.1> At 12:28 AM 12-04-03, Elfur Logadottir wrote: >all i'm saying is: discuss it with someone what you intend to do ... and >then go and do it, because most of the time there's no objection. Oh, absolutely no argument from me there, the motherly one. :) I was just trying to point out why David might have thought nothing was happening. Regards, Madhu <<< * >>> Madhu Menon Internet User Experience Consultant e-mail: webguru at vsnl.net | Yahoo messenger: cold_logic Content * Interfaces * Usability * Net Strategy From lists at mantruc.com Fri Apr 11 14:16:39 2003 From: lists at mantruc.com (javier velasco) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:16:39 -0400 Subject: [Theforum] coordination In-Reply-To: <0be801c3005c$56e1b690$0100a8c0@DWARFS> References: <3E9601D9.10544.911BE858@localhost> <065201c3000e$d15a6410$c802a8c0@local.zensoft.net> <001701c3003b$c57e3900$1c06040a@david> <5.1.0.14.2.20030411231321.0451a8d0@127.0.0.1> <0be801c3005c$56e1b690$0100a8c0@DWARFS> Message-ID: <3E971497.4040603@mantruc.com> Elfur Logadottir wrote: > all i'm saying is: discuss it with someone what you intend to do ... and > then go and do it, because most of the time there's no objection. yes, that's right. the only thing is to stay tuned to the rest of us, most (actually all) of the personal project and initiatives are in line with our spirit, and won't recieve objections. it would just be sad to see 2 paralell(sp?) projects arise, resulting in someone ginving his precious time and swet in vain. From david at gigawatt.com Fri Apr 11 14:40:12 2003 From: david at gigawatt.com (David Kaufman) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:40:12 -0400 Subject: [Theforum] cool EvoltGear now available! -- support theevoltolution References: <00d401c2ffdb$0ef408f0$1c06040a@david> <0baa01c3004d$ede8bac0$0100a8c0@DWARFS> Message-ID: <004501c30062$2cc922c0$1c06040a@david> Elfur Logadottir wrote: > > From: "David Kaufman" >> visit www.CafePress.com/EvoltGear to see the latest in colored, cubic >> fashion, humor and utility. > > oh, and about the products: > the cubes and the letters together make up the logo. > the cubes are never to be detached from the letters. > > other than that: me likes ;) Oh. right. that makes sense. most companies have rules and restrictions about the use (and misuse) of their logos, brank marks, etc. i will redo those that are sans-wordage this weekend. thanks for the feedback, elfur! -dave From david at gigawatt.com Fri Apr 11 14:43:52 2003 From: david at gigawatt.com (David Kaufman) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:43:52 -0400 Subject: [Theforum] Re: [---list] What!? No t-shirt! [supporting evolt] References: <3E9601D9.10544.911BE858@localhost> <065201c3000e$d15a6410$c802a8c0@local.zensoft.net> <001701c3003b$c57e3900$1c06040a@david> <5.1.0.14.2.20030411231321.0451a8d0@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <004c01c30062$ae959720$1c06040a@david> Madhu Menon wrote: > At 10:39 PM 11-04-03, Elfur Logadottir wrote: >> no, as i pointed out on thelist during that discussion was that this >> needed to be in touch with marketing and finance, and martin did >> just that, caught the momentum on thelist and started the work for a >> cafepress account. > > I think that the confusion was because Martin posted it to [steering] > and not theforum. that's true. i'm not subscribed to the steering list, and don't see subscription info on the website... is that a members-only list? -dave From lists at mantruc.com Fri Apr 11 14:43:36 2003 From: lists at mantruc.com (javier velasco) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 15:43:36 -0400 Subject: [Theforum] cool EvoltGear now available! -- support the evoltolution In-Reply-To: <0baa01c3004d$ede8bac0$0100a8c0@DWARFS> References: <00d401c2ffdb$0ef408f0$1c06040a@david> <0baa01c3004d$ede8bac0$0100a8c0@DWARFS> Message-ID: <3E971AE8.6070306@mantruc.com> Elfur Logadottir wrote: > > other than that: me likes ;) I dig them too, I guess I'll pick one of each once I move north and get rid of these silly shipping costs :) From webguru at vsnl.net Fri Apr 11 14:53:15 2003 From: webguru at vsnl.net (Madhu Menon) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 01:23:15 +0530 Subject: [Theforum] Re: [---list] What!? No t-shirt! [supporting evolt] In-Reply-To: <004c01c30062$ae959720$1c06040a@david> References: <3E9601D9.10544.911BE858@localhost> <065201c3000e$d15a6410$c802a8c0@local.zensoft.net> <001701c3003b$c57e3900$1c06040a@david> <5.1.0.14.2.20030411231321.0451a8d0@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030412012245.02457bf0@127.0.0.1> At 01:13 AM 12-04-03, David Kaufman wrote: >i'm not subscribed to the steering list, and don't see >subscription info on the website... is that a members-only list? Yes. And only open to the members of the steering committee, which is two reps from each group. Madhu <<< * >>> Madhu Menon Internet User Experience Consultant e-mail: webguru at vsnl.net | Yahoo messenger: cold_logic Content * Interfaces * Usability * Net Strategy From elfur at elfur.is Fri Apr 11 15:00:24 2003 From: elfur at elfur.is (Elfur Logadottir) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:00:24 -0000 Subject: [Theforum] Re: [---list] What!? No t-shirt! [supporting evolt] References: <3E9601D9.10544.911BE858@localhost><065201c3000e$d15a6410$c802a8c0@local.zensoft.net><001701c3003b$c57e3900$1c06040a@david><5.1.0.14.2.20030411231321.0451a8d0@127.0.0.1> <004c01c30062$ae959720$1c06040a@david> Message-ID: <0c3a01c30064$fe409200$0100a8c0@DWARFS> From: "David Kaufman" | > I think that the confusion was because Martin posted it to [steering] | > and not theforum. | | that's true. i'm not subscribed to the steering list, and don't see | subscription info on the website... is that a members-only list? yeah, steering is a closed list. it consists of the "reps" of each of our "committee" lists desdev sysadmin finance marketing content and is supposed to have two from each list, although, i think that some of them are on a sabbatical right now. (their archives have the urls: http://lists.evolt.org/[listname]archive/ i.e. http://lists.evolt.org/steeringarchive/) the committee thing was created after the discussion that when all things were happening on theforum, it was hard to keep up, hard to follow only the threads of interest. and they were also setup as to make sure that there was a distribution of workload, dependant of interest. theforum is supposed to be the long vision and big-time decision making part of the org. using a normal co. to describe the structure of evolt.org theforum = the stock holders steering = Board of Directors the 5 groups = The departments of the company Marketing Finance Content Sysadmin (comp.dep.) DesDev (Design and development - where the alterations of the actual site happens, redesigns, upgrades of CMS etc) thelist, thechat = the customers >> those who reap what we sow. what i think needs to be done though, is a better promotion of our committee system, to make sure that we always have the fresh and active faces amongst those on these lists. so there, you probably got a lot more than what you were asking for ;) later elfur From david at gigawatt.com Fri Apr 11 20:06:59 2003 From: david at gigawatt.com (David Kaufman) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 21:06:59 -0400 Subject: [Theforum] Re: [---list] What!? No t-shirt! [supporting evolt] References: <3E9601D9.10544.911BE858@localhost> <3E96C90B.30002@mantruc.com> Message-ID: <005301c3008f$d23ad460$89085243@dopey> javier velasco wrote... > David Kaufman wrote: > > > BUT WAIT! there's more: Wall calendars > > I'd happily donate some pictures for the calendar if there's interest > :) thanks, javier ...there is most *definitely* interest! i'm not hoping to be the one to do *all* the work, forever :-) they have two calendar formats available: 1. a single-page "Calendar Print" (with all the months on one page): with just one custom image printed at the top http://cafepress.com/cp/info/products/productdetail.aspx?prodtypeno=74 2. a regular 12-page (one-month-per-page) "Wall Calendar" that has 13 customized images (the cover, plus 12 months): http://cafepress.com/cp/info/products/productdetail.aspx?prodtypeno=75 i've been using (and would recommend) creating 300 DPI images for the best output quality possible. the specs for the images are on those product pages, and the help links are quite helpful, too! -dave From david at gigawatt.com Fri Apr 11 21:00:55 2003 From: david at gigawatt.com (David Kaufman) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:00:55 -0400 Subject: [Theforum] Re: [---list] What!? No t-shirt! [supporting evolt] References: <3E9601D9.10544.911BE858@localhost> <065201c3000e$d15a6410$c802a8c0@local.zensoft.net> <0b9201c3004d$13a38070$0100a8c0@DWARFS> Message-ID: <00d101c30097$5ccce760$89085243@dopey> Elfur Logadottir wrote... > From: "David Kaufman" >>>> although you may wish to wait since i think martin already had >>>> something going... dunno... >> >> sorry, i dunno either. theForum has been pretty quiet of late. okay i did not mean to step on martin (or anyone's) toes in rushing to set this up. if i did, then i do apologize for acting unilaterally. i did notice now that there is *another* a cafepress.com store set up as: http://www.cafepress.com/evolt/ (i setup: /evoltGEAR, not /evolt ...) is this perhaps martins work-in-progress? the coffee mugs there were obviously a result of the same thread on the list i was reacting to :-) actually, now that i think about it, i think i like better than > ... as i pointed out on thelist during that discussion was that this > needed to be in touch with marketing and finance, and martin did just > that, caught the momentum on thelist and started the work for a > cafepress account. > > but for it to be within evolt.org standards and maintaining the > correct branding ;) this needs to be approved and in touch with other > things done (read: right hand needs to tell left hand what it does, > before hand) > > ...i applaud your initiative, but would've preferred discussion > on the "backend" first, to make sure we're all working together. > thank you (for the applause) and i do see your point. >> ...i did setup the checks to go to Marlene. it's been up around, >> what, 12 hours? and there have been 4 orders, for 9 items, totaling >> $157.97 paid, and there is a pending commission payment of $30.06 >> already. > > do you have Marlene's correct address? > she's recently relocated from San Francisco to Washington > or is this done digitally (have no idea) as i mentioned in my original post, when i opened the account, i set the payments to go directly to the address i see on the "support evolt" donations-page, http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ and that address is: evolt.org Attn: Treasurer P.O. Box 631 Mountain View, CA 94042-0631 Important: Make checks, etc., out to "evolt.org." is this not correct? has the address changed? if so, please let me know where i should have the (monthly check) payments forwarded to! > hey don't apologize, but would appreciate a teeny weenie discussion > on this end before announcing it to thelist. okay, well here comes a bit more from the teenie weenie discussion department: i would very much like to setup (and host) a site, where evolt members can post product images and contribute other (non-image) suggestions, such as humorous tag-lines to put on t-shirts, stickers, etc. the absolutely hilarious suggestion (from .jeff, via Joshua i believe) about a t-shirt with on the front and on the back, combined with a hat that said just made the whole thing completely irresistible to me! i had to do it. now that i'm looking back over the thread, though i do see that progress was being made (without need of me leaping forward) and it was not my intent to squelch any of that. if anyone can get a local t-shirt company to print higher quality silk-screened shirts for $3 per, and evolt can afford to invest in a priting a run of dozens or hundreds, that's great! but until then, we can use this cafepress site to "test the waters" risk-free and see if we can even move a hundred shirts... the products will be popular and the project (as a continuing revenue stream) will succeed, imo only if the content on the shirts, mugs and whatnot stays **fresh**, changing often, and reflecting what evolters want and like ...the best way to keep the content fresh and relevant is to give MEMBERS a vehicle to participate, involve themselves and take some pride in the level of the quality products (and humor!) that are available... i.e. something we are proud to point our friends to, and say, "we do that". so... would anyone object if i put together and posted a plan for such a site ... for a bit of discussion? :-) -dave From lach at illuminosity.net Fri Apr 11 04:34:25 2003 From: lach at illuminosity.net (Lachlan Cannon) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 19:34:25 +1000 Subject: [Theforum] cool EvoltGear now available! -- support the evoltolution In-Reply-To: <00d401c2ffdb$0ef408f0$1c06040a@david> References: <00d401c2ffdb$0ef408f0$1c06040a@david> Message-ID: <3E968C21.6090602@illuminosity.net> David Kaufman wrote: > - a genuine evolt.org baseball cap > - the obligatory t-shirt (with on the back) > - drinking from a cofee mug Caffeine, surely? > Also comin soon: how much would you pay for the Evolt Broser archive on > a Evolt-branded silk-screened full color CD rom? pretty handy, eh? I'm not sure that that's, well, entirely legal, since it's the software of other companies being distributed... -- Lach __________________________________________ Web: http://illuminosity.net/ E-mail: lach @ illuminosity.net MSN: luminosity @ members.evolt.org __________________________________________ From david at gigawatt.com Sun Apr 13 19:30:13 2003 From: david at gigawatt.com (David Kaufman) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 20:30:13 -0400 Subject: [Theforum] cool EvoltGear now available! -- support theevoltolution References: <00d401c2ffdb$0ef408f0$1c06040a@david> <3E968C21.6090602@illuminosity.net> Message-ID: <000401c3021d$04213c60$89085243@dopey> Lachlan Cannon wrote... > David Kaufman wrote: >> Also comin soon: how much would you pay for the Evolt Broser archive >> on a Evolt-branded silk-screened full color CD rom? pretty handy, >> eh? > > I'm not sure that that's, well, entirely legal, since it's the > software of other companies being distributed... that's an interesting question. which leads to another: how legal is http://browsers.evolt.org ? -dave