[thelist] Wireless Development and eCommerce Tools

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> From:	Maria Teresa Molina [SMTP:teresa@hhikc.harte-hanks.com]
> Sent:	Tuesday, November 30, 1999 8:46 PM
> To:	thelist (E-mail)
> Subject:	[thelist] Wireless Development and eCommerce Tools
> 
> Anyone doing any development for wireless phones, PDAs, etc? Does anyone
> know the ratio of devices that use HDML vs. WML. I'm currently running
> through the WML stuff and will soon do the same for HDML, but if I have
> to develop for one or the other, which is more prevalent?
	[Burns, Martin]  
	As I mentioned elsewhere, if you're storing natively in XML, it
won't make
	a bit of difference when you serve it through your app server.
You'll
	just throw out a new DTD or use one to pour it into a different
template.

> Also, I was wondering if anyone knew of a place where I could find a
> comprehensive list of the major eCommerce development tools, such as
> Broadvision (I know, I know: yuck!) and similar. What do you all use?
> 
[Burns, Martin]  
The basic shortleet (together with some notes & prices) is:
*	IBM NetCommerce. Nice Java/XML standardisation. $20k per processor
or so
*	ATG Dynamo. Development foundation with good personalisation. 100%
Java. $50k per production CPU or so.
*	Intershop enfinity. Grown way beyond Intershop's routes. Now very,
very standards based. Deployment bundle $120k; customisation bundle $250k.
*	Allaire Spectra. Mature CF app server basis. Not yet public release,
so as yet unproven. Supports COM, CORBA & Java so very standards compliant.
Lots of nice openness for the future. $11k per server
*	MS SiteServer. Locked into MS - has to be NT, MTS, IIS etc. But if
you're an all MS shop, worth a look. $3,400 per server + £3k for unlimited
client access.
*	Interworld Commerce Exchange. Locked into a proprietory app server
and difficult to integrate 3rd party tools. $150k per server on NT; $250k
per server on Unix.
*	Broadvision. Only connectivity is via CORBA - claims Java/EJB isn't
stable enough. Everything else is proprietory. Very, very hard to recruit
staff for - you *will* be paying big money (eh, Seb?). $80k for the app
server; $120k for the packages to do things out of the box.
*	Vignette StoryServer. Came out of Newspaper content management and
it shows in its poor adaptability to eCommerce applications. Development is
in TCL which has a very, very small developer market (it *will* cost you
large stacks of cash). From $75k per server.

The big non-obvious things you want to look for are standards compliance
(Java is a must) without proprietory products.

Cheers

Martin Burns
xtn 20867
External tel: 0131 523 0867
mobile: 0793 151 8480
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