[thelist] Opening in a new chromeless window

Seth Bienek - Web Consultant sbienek at acep.org
Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:23:45 -0600


Hi George,

As web developers I believe that we are more forgiving and understanding
than the average Joe User when it comes to sites doing unique things with
our desktop.  We appreciate the complexity and novelty of it.  Your average
Joe User will likely just get pissed off.

Alot of people are very uptight about keeping things on their desktop just
so; if you cover up all the windows they have tiled and take away the
navigation buttons they are used to, they are liable to really freak out;
once they manage to figure out how to get out of your site they may make a
point of never coming back.

If you're still interested in using this technique, I suggest you provide it
as an optional way to browse your site, rather than the default, and even
then keep the browser's standard navigation buttons (if nothing else)
available.

I'm sure many of the developers on this list will back me up when I say it's
generally not a good idea to "take over" your users' desktops.

Hope this helps,

Seth

:) -----Original Message-----
:) From: George Dillon [mailto:george.dillon@ukonline.co.uk]
:) Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 3:58 AM
:) To: thelist@lists.evolt.org
:) Subject: [thelist] Opening in a new chromeless window
:) 
:) 
:) I've recently seen more and more sites which open themselves 
:) in a new near
:) full-size window, usually without toolbars.  Once I got over 
:) the initial
:) shock and mild annoyance, I found some to be quite wonderful (e.g.
:) http://www.htmlguru.com - recommended by bob davis on this list), and
:) although others reveal pitfalls I am tempted to do something 
:) similar for my
:) personal home site.
:) 
:) I can see some obvious advantages - e.g. a less cluttered 
:) canvas of a known
:) size, limiting the user's options (i.e. no JS-busting 'Back' 
:) button) - and
:) some disadvantages - e.g. browser compatibility issues, 
:) navigation needing
:) to be tighter and more intuitive.
:) 
:) Can anyone (especially those who have built sites this way) 
:) suggest what
:) pitfalls I should avoid (or at least be aware of if 
:) unavoidable), and would
:) this approach be inappropriate for a client's business site?
:) 
:) TIA
:) 
:) George Dillon
:) 
:) 
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