[thelist] Footer credits

> From: Oliver Lineham <oliver@lineham.co.nz>
> 
> as should we all, but I'm not sure source comments or meta tags is
> good for pulling in customers. it would only tell your competitors
> that you did the site.

that, and those shops who really care as well... it helps, but no, it's 
certainly not a marketing tool...

> if you're dealing through an agency, then sure there are different
> standards about appropriate branding.  but i see no problem with
> full-service companies branding their sites, so long as the customer
> was aware beforehand and that the brand is not too blatant.

absolutely... especially if you are sub-contracted by agency...

i do, however, put our name all over not-for-profit sites that we do 
as freebies...

> my philosophy: you don't need to harm the appearance of the site, or
> make something eye-catching. if a visitor wants to employ your
> services, they will seek out the link.

not a bad philosophy, just not ours... most of our clients appreciate 
the lack of 'designed by...' on their pages, the rest don't care...

> and about branding of ads.  most newspaper ads have, in *extremely*
> small font in one corner (often outside the border), a string of
> characters indicating ad agency and ad id code.  mostly it's used by
> the newspaper to keep track of advertisers, but it is also useful for
> finding a good ad agency if a particular ad took your fancy.

yep, but it isn't really advertising, now is it?  although it can be 
handy...

btw, there is a local organization comprised of art directors and 
everyone else, really, from the local agencies and other creative-
related shops (some printers, internal design departments, etc.)... 
we all know each other, we all know who did precisely what ad... 
it's kinda cool, since you can sometimes watch accounts roll 
around town through different agencies... it's a great organization, 
and if your area has one, worth getting involved with...