I have to say that apart from a lot of answers I never would have gotten otherwise -- many given to others -- the coolest part about lists like Evolt is the inspiration. To realize, you know, that these people who can just breathe out something complex and cool, they taught themselves just like anybody else for the most part; and if I pay attention and work on doing things well, eventually, I can do it too. I feel an interesting sense of 'community', knowing that many other independent web developers (and a few who aren't independent) are also familiar with the working 24/7 live on a string overworked overcoded chronic deadline kind of life -- we have all spent far too much time working at 2am, drinking too much caffeine, and eating pizza or top ramen 'cause it's faster and/or cheaper than 'real' meals. Working on your own can be a pretty lonely job in a way, especially if you work a lot of hours. A sense of community.... no matter how virtual.... helps a lot. Thanks, Evoltians. -- Palyne > In that regard... it has certainly been my experience that > subscription to lists such as this one (I am diligently reading 6 > these days) has had a marked effect on my efforts and abilities.