palyne, :~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ : From: Palyne Gaenir <palyne at sciencehorizon.com> : : Can you use cfinsert and cfupdate when one of the : form fields is for the upload of a file? How would you : do that if so, just put the cffile tag under the : cfinsert/update tag? :~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i would like to add my support of what others have already said - don't use cfinsert or cfupdate. just use a regular old cfquery tag and update or insert sql queries. besides, these are probably the easiest statements there are. good luck, .jeff name://jeff.howden game://web.development http://www.evolt.org/ mailto:jeff at members.evolt.org