Hi Erik, I would recommend you set up Apache 1.3.12 with Cocoon (1.7.4 is the latest stable I think). It's not to hard to set up, even under Windows, and will give you plenty of space to play around and test. .redstar. <quote> <author name="Erik M. Sabowski" /> ...I'm trying to learn XML, but i'm having a hard time getting any of the java parsers and stuff to work... </quote>