At work, we just got new designers. They are very good at what they do, but not when it refers to html. The problem is that they are so used to move things around, that all they use are layers. And lots of them. They cant think tables. I tried to convince them of tables and to leave layers for "special ocasions". They didnt seem convinced that layers are bad since they dont work the same in all the browsers. For what i have seen, ther are no big sites that use layers, most of them go tables. I have to be honest, since I ran out of arguments very fast. So what i need to know is, is it, at this day, good to go layers ? Maybe i am the one who likes tables so much that wants to keep it that way. If anyone can clear me up the advantages/disadvantages of using tables vs layers and what you recommend, it would be great, so that i can have a reason to debate with the designers. For now, the designers refuse to do anything in tables, they think thats an engineering job :( All they use is the "convert layers to tables" in Dreamweaver. Can anyone recommend how you guys convert a design to html with tables ?? Thanks in advance.