> i could go on about this stuff for hours but we are > really far afield from the mainstream of web development > topics, eh? Hi Rudy, Great article. AFAIC this is bang on the mark. As a matter of fact, this is right at the heart of web-dev stuff (since 1986 at least). It's simply at a different level than 'Help! My <b> tag doesn't work'. -- -- Frank Marion Loofah Communications frank at loofahcom.com http://www.loofahcom.com