[thelist] Re: thelist digest, Vol 1 #1000 - 26 msgs
Richard A Pratt
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Desktop.com? (Mark Gregor)
> 2. Apple helps web developers (Miraz Jordan)
> 3. Re: Weblog Specifications? (deboute benjamin)
> 4. Re: X-evolt: WHAT!!? (deboute benjamin)
> 5. RE: The Tyranny of Standards (deboute benjamin)
> 6. Linux Tar Question (CDitty)
> 7. RE: Drop-down menu items (Niklaus Haldimann)
> 8. Re: Interface Opinions/Input (Andrew Oliver)
> 9. Re: cms (martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com)
> 10. Re: Content Freshness Agent - How to implement?
> (martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com)
> 11. Re: Indenting paragraphs or using whitespace?
> (martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com)
> 12. Re: Content Freshness Agent - How to implement?
> (martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com)
> 13. Re: (martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com)
> 14. thesite (John Handelaar)
> 15. RE: Flat-file databasing (Ornstein, Ian)
> 16. document.write() into a pop-up window (Niklaus Haldimann)
> 17. Re: thesite (rudy)
> 18. Publishing with Composer in N6 (Minh Lee Goon)
> 19. Re: document.write() into a pop-up window (Peter-Paul Koch)
> 20. RE: Publishing with Composer in N6 (Jesus Gonzalez Gorriti)
> 21. OT? VB6.0 Forums (Tab Alleman)
> 22. Re: Linux Tar Question (Dean Mah)
> 23. PHP 'proof of concept' virus developed
> (martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com)
> 24. RE: thesite (John Handelaar)
> 25. flash design styles (Peter Van Dijck)
> 26. Re: thesite (aardvark)
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> Message: 1
> From: "Mark Gregor" <mark at velir.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:15:44 -0500
> charset="us-ascii"
> Subject: [thelist] Desktop.com?
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>
> This might be a little off-topic, but anyone know what happened to
> Desktop.com? Was it a casualty of the .com shakeout of the past few
> months?
>
>
> Mark
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:17:56 +1300
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> From: Miraz Jordan <miraz at firstbite.co.nz>
> Subject: [thelist] Apple helps web developers
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> Just seen this site mentioned on MacNN:
>
> <http://developer.apple.com/internet/>
>
> Apple have put together a site to help web developers. It covers
> HTML, CSS, Fonts, Graphics, Javascript and even includes a link to
> evolt's browser archive.
>
> Worth a look.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Miraz
>
> --
> Eudora Tips for Macintosh
> Searchable Archive and mailing list:
> <http://www.firstbite.co.nz/eutips/>
> A service of First Bite of the Apple
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 04:22:22 +0100
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> From: deboute benjamin <deboute at fr.clara.net>
> Subject: Re: [thelist] Weblog Specifications?
> >
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> and i even have a point to make in order to regain my karma.
>
> http://www.freeweblog.com
>
> future open source weblog server, currently in developement, almost
> finished.
> want source ?
>
>
>
>
> deboute benjamin
> rightfull owwer of freeweblog.com
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 04:17:17 +0100
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> From: deboute benjamin <deboute at fr.clara.net>
> Subject: Re: [thelist] X-evolt: WHAT!!?
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> At 17:42 31/12/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >> X-evolt: A wholey owned susidiary of Lycos Inc.
> >
> ><Yikes>
> >
> >Lucy! You've got some 'splaining to do!
> >
> >--
>
> yo, okay : )
>
> some while ago, when i was far less overbooked by work than now, i
> was a
> frequent poster to this list.
> some day, we went X-evolt frenzied, a large thread then started [
> the
> history as named the event as the Grand X-evolt Thread ] and i wrote
> some
> X-evolts, one night, very late [ rather soon ].
> i compiled them on my website, so people that wasn't there during
> the Grand
> X-evolt Thread can allow themselves the delicious bliss of delightly
> carved
> netslave humour, that is now sooooo twentieth century.
> :)
> And this one is a reference to the lycos ascquisation of WIRED that
> started
> Evolt in a way,and i dont think it was mine : )
>
>
>
> deboute benjamin
> righful owner of nerdsoul.com
> overworked lurker
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 04:47:17 +0100
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> From: deboute benjamin <deboute at fr.clara.net>
> Subject: RE: [thelist] The Tyranny of Standards
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> this time, a karma bet.
>
> standards are good.
> yes, but some browser extention may be considered.
> and what do we know about standards, we never saw them :(
> go to the wasp and see
> http://webstandardsproject.org
> and signup, it's a Good Thing (TM).
> anyway, i like NN, but i hat thm for the CSS slaughter they made.
> they were censed to make a tool for us to work with, not a total
> wreck like NN4
>
> first point.
>
>
>
> the only standard is your environment/target.
>
>
> if you target a wide audience, go soft, if you do an intranet with a
> IE
> park, go for it.
> and with a little server magic you can always hack your pages
> zenly.
> if you do a page for yourself, you can choose your browser.
> and if it's art, warn.
>
> second point.
>
>
>
> and testing is a Good Thing (TM)
>
> what you assume as "standards" is now.
> but what you should think of "standard" is tomorrow.
> the Mozilla Horizon, where Mozilla [aka IE6] will be released and
> when you
> would be able to work on any property of any object IN YOUR PAGE.
> am i technically ready ?
> no.
> is my mind in the good shape ?
> no.
> so, we need to work this out, to try new features, to make unusable
>
> monsters out of proprietary code, let's try it, damnit [sorry for
> the
> offended ears, but that was for the rhyme].
> you want a trick ?
> call it 'art', it's a social plus and you can get free coupons, AND
> never
> anybody will call it a 'disaster' [oups, has anybody already said
> that of
> MOMA's installation?] nor tackle you about usability or navigation
> or
> browser if you WARN.
>
> wanna give a look ?
> http://www.esprits-libres.net/alien_in_paris
>
>
> deboute benjamin
> rightfull owner of esprits-libres.net
> ps::the browser bug i speak of for GOLEM is described there
> http://webreference.com/dhtml/column28/
> http://webreference.com/dhtml/column34/
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 00:34:46 -0600
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> From: CDitty <mail at redhotsweeps.com>
> Subject: [thelist] Linux Tar Question
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> I am writing a small php script to create a backup of my web server.
> Can
> anyone tell me a way (if possible) to exclude directories using tar?
> I
> have tried using the following commands, but they give errors.
>
> tar -cf --exclude=stats /home/httpd/html/galore/test.tar
> /home/httpd/html/galore/
> tar --exclude=stats -cf /home/httpd/html/galore/test.tar
> /home/httpd/html/galore/
>
> This is the error I get.
> tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
> tar: /home/httpd/html/galore/test.tar: file is the archive; not
> dumped
>
> Any ideas?
> CDitty
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 10:34:40 +0100
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> From: n.haldimann at derbund.ch (Niklaus Haldimann)
> Subject: RE: [thelist] Drop-down menu items
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> Martin P Burns wrote:
> >To be honest, the only arguments I've seen against him are:
> > "He charges $n,000 a day and I'm such a weenie. I don't like
> him"
> > "I'm a crack-addict and can't wean myself off the flashy stuff"
> > "His site is, like, soooooooooooooooo ugly"
> > "I'm too lazy to learn how to write HTML properly"
>
> Speaking of wich ... You think Jakob's site is ugly? Redesign it!
> http://anomy.net/useit.competition/
> Pretty cool idea. The site hasn't changed in a while though, I'm not
> sure
> if the project's still alive.
>
> Niklaus.
>
> <tip type="http authentication">
> Password protection is really not that hard. Assuming you are
> running
> Apache in an unix environment ...
>
> 1. Write this in a text file and call it ".htaccess":
>
> AuthType Basic
> AuthName " "
> AuthUserFile .htpasswd
> require valid-user
>
> 2. Store the file in the directory you would like to protect.
>
> 3. Go to your unix prompt (or telnet to your server). Go to the
> directory
> where you put the htaccess-file.
>
> 4. Enter "htpasswd -c .htpasswd yourusername" at the prompt, where
> "yourusername" is the user you want to create. You're prompted to
> enter and
> confirm the password for that user.
>
> 5. Your done. Check any file within the now protected directory on
> the web.
>
> Additionally:
> 6. Repeat step 4 withtouh the -c parameter to add more users.
> </tip>
>
>
> --
> http://eBund.ch http://eGames.ch
>
>
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>
> Message: 8
> From: "Andrew Oliver" <asoliver at madasafish.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: Re: [thelist] Interface Opinions/Input
> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:30:21 -0000
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> I vote for colour also, although the copper is striking and reeks
> of
> profesionalism - the wires seem redundant.
> Ollie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Norman Bunn <norman.bunn at craftedsolutions.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Sent: 08 January 2001 22:27
> Subject: Re: [thelist] Interface Opinions/Input
>
>
> > I thought I was getting the hang of Photoshop and then I see
> something
> like
> > this! Great work, Gina! I vote for "color".
> >
> > Norman
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gina K. Anderson <gina at sitediva.com>
> > To: Evolt <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 2:38 PM
> > Subject: [thelist] Interface Opinions/Input
> >
> >
> > > Hi gang,
> > >
> > > Haven't been real busy with work, so started to play a bit in
> Photoshop.
> I
> > have
> > > been working on an interface for practice, and this is my first
> one. I
> > can't
> > > decide if I like the full color one, or the copper-hued one.
> Also, any
> > input is
> > > welcome. I'd like to get really good at this, so fire away (BTW
> I know
> the
> > icons
> > > on some of the buttons look like crap, but I was too lazy to get
> my clip
> > art
> > > out-ignore those for now ;)
> > >
> > > http://www.sitediva.com/interface.html (68kb)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Gina
> > >
> > >
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> Message: 9
> From: <martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com>
> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 11:45:39 +0000
> Subject: Re: [thelist] cms
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>
>
> Memo from Martin P Burns of PricewaterhouseCoopers
>
> -------------------- Start of message text --------------------
>
> Cam used to run a CMS list, but it got taken over by Dave Winer
> and friends (it seemed like Dave found it, and emailed all his
> buddy buddies to join and sing Frontier's praises all the damn
> time).
>
> That's when I left...
>
> Jay, why not keep CMS stuff here?
>
> Cheers
> Martin
>
>
>
>
>
> Please respond to thelist at lists.evolt.org
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> cc:
>
>
> Subject: Re: [thelist] cms
>
>
>
> > From: Jay Greenspan <jay at trans-city.com>
> >
> > Are there sites any of you can recommend for keeping up on
> developments
> > in the content management arena?
>
> um, not so much anymore, especially since i'm not a CMS guy
> specifically, and since the sites i used to use are, well, down...
>
> anyway:
>
> http://www.camworld.org/cms/
> (page-o-lists, one of the guys in the office is signed up to a
> bunch)
>
>
>
>
> --------------------- End of message text --------------------
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> Message: 10
> From: <martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com>
> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 11:43:04 +0000
> Subject: Re: [thelist] Content Freshness Agent - How to implement?
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>
>
> Memo from Martin P Burns of PricewaterhouseCoopers
>
> -------------------- Start of message text --------------------
>
> Ben
>
> You're starting to get into Content Management System territory -
> that's almost exactly the position I was in 2 years ago with a
> large
> intranet
>
> The difference is now there *are* systems on the market which will
> do
> this for you.
>
> Take a look at
>
http://evolt.org/article/You_need_a_Content_Management_System/20/1449/evo
lt.org
>
> Cheers
> Martin
>
>
>
>
>
> Please respond to thelist at lists.evolt.org
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>
> Subject: [thelist] Content Freshness Agent - How to implement?
>
>
>
> I would like to implement, using ASP/SQL Server, a "content
> freshness agent"
> that would check the expiration date (set in the content database)
> of a page
> containing time-sensitive content against the current date. When the
> two
> match, the agent sends an e-mail to the site admin noting that
> content on
> the page has expired.
>
> The piece I'm missing is the agent that would do the crawling of the
> site
> and matching of the dates. It would need to crawl the site database
> automatically on a periodic basis, such as once a day. Does anyone
> have
> ideas on how to implement such an agent?
>
> --Ben Gustafson
>
>
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> Message: 11
> From: <martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com>
> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 11:48:16 +0000
> Subject: Re: [thelist] Indenting paragraphs or using whitespace?
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>
>
> Memo from Martin P Burns of PricewaterhouseCoopers
>
> -------------------- Start of message text --------------------
>
> Using structural markup is *always* going to help non-visually-
> parsing agents. And for this reason, your default HTML style
> should always be structural and semantic, only deviating when
> justified on a case-by-case basis.
>
> You could of course do the indent with css attributes to the <p>
> tag...
>
> Cheers
> Martin
>
>
>
>
> Please respond to thelist at lists.evolt.org
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> cc:
>
>
> Subject: Re: [thelist] Indenting paragraphs or using whitespace?
>
>
>
> Definitely the white-space is more common than indentation. And, I
> believe
> that some page-readers for the disabled are aided by <p> tags
> around
> individual paragraphs.
>
>
>
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> Message: 12
> From: <martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com>
> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 11:50:29 +0000
> Subject: Re: [thelist] Content Freshness Agent - How to implement?
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>
>
> Memo from Martin P Burns of PricewaterhouseCoopers
>
> -------------------- Start of message text --------------------
>
> Are these flat pages, or are they served from a database/template
> system?
>
> If the latter, it can't be too hard to identify them.
>
> If you want to expire/archive them, *then* it gets fun, as you then
> also
> have to keep track of incoming links...
>
> Cheers
> Martin
>
>
>
>
>
> Please respond to thelist at lists.evolt.org
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> cc:
>
>
> Subject: Re: [thelist] Content Freshness Agent - How to implement?
>
>
>
> > The piece I'm missing is the agent that would do the crawling of
> the site
> > and matching of the dates. It would need to crawl the site
> database
> > automatically on a periodic basis, such as once a day. Does anyone
> have
> > ideas on how to implement such an agent?
>
> I assume that the platform that agent would be running upon would be
> Windows
> NT? If so, look into AT commands. You would just have AT call your
> ASP script
> every X seconds/minutes/hours/whatever. Then, you can do anything
> with the ASP
> script that you can do in ASP. But, if you're running it frequently,
> make sure
> you balance things out with stored procs, etc.
>
>
>
> --------------------- End of message text --------------------
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> The principal place of business of PricewaterhouseCoopers and its
> associate
> partnerships is 1 Embankment Place, London WC2N 6NN where lists of
> the
> partners' names are available for inspection. All partners in the
> associate
> partnerships are authorised to conduct business as agents of, and
> all
> contracts for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers.
> The UK
> firm of PricewaterhouseCoopers is authorised by the Institute of
> Chartered
> Accountants in England and Wales to carry on investment business.
> PricewaterhouseCoopers is a member of the world-wide
> PricewaterhouseCoopers organisation.
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> Message: 13
> From: <martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com>
> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 11:52:36 +0000
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: [thelist] Re:
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>
>
> Memo from Martin P Burns of PricewaterhouseCoopers
>
> -------------------- Start of message text --------------------
>
> Am I totally barking up the wrong tree, or could this be a basic
> XML application?
>
> It's a route I'm thinking of for bits of my own site:
> http://www.easyweb.co.uk/
>
> Cheers
> Martin
>
>
>
> To: Martin P Burns/UK/MCS/PwC
> cc:
>
>
> Subject:
>
>
>
> From: Alan Mccoy <amccoy at altairtek.com>
> To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: Flat-file databasing
> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 15:40:33 -0500
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>
> I remember there being a thread recently about serving
> database-driven pages
> using flat-file databases. There was a site that is specifcally
> geared to
> this format and I can't remember the name of it. (flatfile.net or
> something
> like that??)
>
>
>
>
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> associate
> partnerships are authorised to conduct business as agents of, and
> all
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> Message: 14
> From: "John Handelaar" <john at userfrenzy.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:18:59 -0000
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Subject: [thelist] thesite
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>
> Where is thesite's list at, anyway?
>
> JH
>
> PS: I found this on the site whilst looking for
> a signup form. The quote at the bottom was kinda
> funny :-)
>
> http://www.newmediawhore.com/arf.gif
>
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>
> Message: 15
> From: "Ornstein, Ian" <IanOrnstein at NC.SLR.com>
> To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 08:30:57 -0500
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Subject: [thelist] RE: Flat-file databasing
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>
> re:
> I remember there being a thread recently about serving
> database-driven pages
> using flat-file databases. There was a site that is specifcally
> geared to
> this format and I can't remember the name of it. (flatfile.net or
> something
> like that??)
>
> Take a look at:
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/techart/d51webapparch.htm
> and especially
> http://www.asptoday.com/articles/20010105.htm
>
> HTH
>
> - IanO -
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 14:58:56 +0100
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> From: n.haldimann at derbund.ch (Niklaus Haldimann)
> Subject: [thelist] document.write() into a pop-up window
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> Hi all.
>
> I have once seen a JavaScript example that opened a window with
> window.open() without actually calling any URL and used
> document.write() (I
> think) to write a full HTML document directly into the newly opened
> window.
> I saw this a while back (like 98/99), so the particular script was
> very
> simple sans any fancy layer twirks or the likes. I am need of such a
> script
> right now. Can anybody help?
>
> Thanks,
> Niklaus.
>
> --
> http://eBund.ch http://eGames.ch
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 17
> From: "rudy" <r937 at interlog.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: Re: [thelist] thesite
> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:24:48 -0500
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> >Where is thesite's list at, anyway?
>
> hi john
>
> http://lists.evolt.org/mailman/listinfo/thesite/
>
>
> > The quote at the bottom was kinda funny :-)
> > http://www.newmediawhore.com/arf.gif
>
> "Evolt.org is a community of people desperately
> trying to use nothing but style sheets, and getting their
> collective asses kicked in the process."
>
> this is actually the current quote on http://test.evolt.org/
>
> whoever it was that took that screenshot must've caught us with our
> pants
> down (so to speak) as we moved the cold fusion template from test to
> live,
> before it got fixed up to its current state of propreity
>
> i'm all in favour of rotating new quotes in there, much like we do
> with the
> X-evolt mail header
>
> in fact, there was one in your post yesterday, john, that i thought
> was
> pretty neat
>
> evolt.org -- web designers who can find their own arse with both
> hands
>
>
> rudy
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 08:37:36 -0600
> From: Minh Lee Goon <v7ac at sdsumus.sdstate.edu>
> Organization: South Dakota State University
> To: evolt <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: [thelist] Publishing with Composer in N6
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> Dear evolta,
> I am in need of your help again. In N4.7x, Composer came with a
> publish
> function that is now missing (or, at least, hidden) in N6. Is the
> function still available or was it removed?
>
> </ml>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 19
> From: "Peter-Paul Koch" <gassinaumasis at hotmail.com>
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: Re: [thelist] document.write() into a pop-up window
> e: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 14:50:50 -0000
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> >I have once seen a JavaScript example that opened a window with
> >window.open() without actually calling any URL and used
> document.write() (I
> >think) to write a full HTML document directly into the newly opened
> window.
>
> var newwin = window.open('','','width=200,height=400');
> newwin.document.write('<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>This is the
> title</TITLE></HEAD>');
> newwin.document.write('<BODY><P>This is a P!</P></BODY></HTML');
> newwin.document.close()
>
> ppk
>
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>
> Message: 20
> From: Jesus Gonzalez Gorriti <Jesus.Gorriti at iconmedialab.es>
> To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: RE: [thelist] Publishing with Composer in N6
> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:12:28 +0100
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>
> How about not using Netscape Composer?
>
> Go to macromedia, download a 30 day Dreamweaver 4
> demo and et voila. Complete publishing function and
> site management.
>
> Jesús Gorriti / Art Director / IconMedialab Spain
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Minh Lee Goon [mailto:v7ac at sdsumus.sdstate.edu]
> Enviado el: martes, 09 de enero de 2001 15:38
> Para: evolt
> Asunto: [thelist] Publishing with Composer in N6
>
>
> Dear evolta,
> I am in need of your help again. In N4.7x, Composer came with a
> publish
> function that is now missing (or, at least, hidden) in N6. Is the
> function still available or was it removed?
>
> </ml>
>
> ---------------------------------------
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>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 21
> From: "Tab Alleman" <talleman at autobex.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:35:47 -0500
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Subject: [thelist] OT? VB6.0 Forums
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> Can anyone recommend a good forum (similar to this one) for VB 6.0
> questions?
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 22
> From: Dean Mah <dsmah at home.com>
> Subject: Re: [thelist] Linux Tar Question
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 08:50:28 -0700 (MST)
> Reply-To: dsmah at home.com
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> Are you sure that this didn't work? Do a 'tar tf' on your file.
> The
> two messages look like warnings. The first is telling you that
> tar
> stripped off the leading / and the second is telling you that while
> tar'ing everything together, it found the file test.tar and realize
> that it was the tar archive itself so skipped it.
>
> Dean
>
>
> CDitty writes:
>
> > I am writing a small php script to create a backup of my web
> server. Can
> > anyone tell me a way (if possible) to exclude directories using
> tar? I
> > have tried using the following commands, but they give errors.
> >
> > tar -cf --exclude=stats /home/httpd/html/galore/test.tar
> > /home/httpd/html/galore/
> > tar --exclude=stats -cf /home/httpd/html/galore/test.tar
> > /home/httpd/html/galore/
> >
> > This is the error I get.
> > tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
> > tar: /home/httpd/html/galore/test.tar: file is the archive; not
> dumped
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 23
> From: <martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com>
> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 16:02:20 +0000
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: [thelist] PHP 'proof of concept' virus developed
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>
>
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> Martin
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> Message: 24
> From: "John Handelaar" <john at userfrenzy.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Cc: <r937 at interlog.com>
> Subject: RE: [thelist] thesite
> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:06:30 -0000
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> > [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of rudy
> > Sent: 09 January 2001 14:25
> > To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> > Subject: Re: [thelist] thesite
> >
> >
> > "Evolt.org is a community of people desperately
> > trying to use nothing but style sheets, and getting their
> > collective asses kicked in the process."
> >
> > this is actually the current quote on http://test.evolt.org/
> >
> > whoever it was that took that screenshot must've caught us with
> our pants
> > down (so to speak) as we moved the cold fusion template from test
> to live,
> > before it got fixed up to its current state of propreity
>
> Actually you ought to know, then, that it was this morning...
>
>
> > i'm all in favour of rotating new quotes in there, much like we
> > do with the
> > X-evolt mail header
> >
> > in fact, there was one in your post yesterday, john, that i
> thought was
> > pretty neat
> >
> > evolt.org -- web designers who can find their own arse with
> both hands
>
> Ah - now you're just flattering me :-)
>
> ------------------------------------------
> John Handelaar
>
> T +44 20 7209 4117 M +44 7930 681789
> F +44 870 169 7657 E john at userfrenzy.com
> ------------------------------------------
>
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>
> Message: 25
> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 16:09:41 +0000
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> From: Peter Van Dijck <peter at vardus.com>
> Subject: [thelist] flash design styles
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> Is there an overview of flash design styles somewhere? Where I could
> find
> sites similar in style to http://www.designgraphik.com/ for example,
> or
> other styles, major design style directions people are taking and
> stuff
> like that?
> Peter
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 26
> From: "aardvark" <roselli at earthlink.net>
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:23:36 -0500
> Subject: Re: [thelist] thesite
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> > From: "rudy" <r937 at interlog.com>
> [...]
> > > The quote at the bottom was kinda funny :-)
> > > http://www.newmediawhore.com/arf.gif
> >
> > "Evolt.org is a community of people desperately
> > trying to use nothing but style sheets, and getting their
> > collective asses kicked in the process."
>
> oops... that was me... when i was building the templates to turn
> isaac's design into compliant HTML that degraded well and had all
> styling handled by CSS, i was having a hella time getting the CSS
> to work properly for all CSS-friendly browsers, without differences
> in
> support resulting in pages that were illegible for some, and wonky
> for others... so, yeah, i wrote that when i was having a bad
> night...
>
> > this is actually the current quote on http://test.evolt.org/
> >
> > whoever it was that took that screenshot must've caught us with
> our pants
> > down (so to speak) as we moved the cold fusion template from test
> to live,
> > before it got fixed up to its current state of propreity
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
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