good for them... it's about time... btw, does everyone on the list know that evolt.org did the very same thing December 15? it's not *exactly* the same thing, since the evolt.org site still uses tables, but that's because we wanted to create a site that *didn't* require a browser upgrade... of course, i couldn't refrain from commenting on the ALA article: http://www.alistapart.com/discuss/read.cfm?forum=49&id=451&thre ad=144 > From: "the head lemur" <headlemur at qwest.net> > > the hell with bad browsers > > http://www.alistapart.com/main.html > > webstandards upgrade project > > http://www.webstandards.org/upgrade/