[thelist] frameborder=0

Wed Mar 7 07:36:13 CST 2001

The newest and most compliant browsers (IE5/Mac and NS6) have two page
rendering modes, "quirky" and compliant.
The doctype specified will determine which is used

No doctype declaration
Quirks
Pre-HTML 4.0 doctype declaration eg. <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML
3.2 Final//EN">
Quirks
HTML 4.x Strict doctype declaration eg. <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD
HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
Standards
HTML 4.x Transitional doctype declaration without a URI eg. <!DOCTYPE HTML
PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
Quirks
HTML 4.01 Transitional doctype declaration with the URI ie. <!DOCTYPE HTML
PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
Standards
HTML 4.0 Transitional doctype declaration with the URI ie. <!DOCTYPE HTML
PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
Quirks in Mozilla, Standards in IE 5 for Mac

this is an extract from http://www.hut.fi/u/hsivonen/doctype.html. The page
provides much more information

There is also a very good article on http://www.alistapart.com concerning
their re-design for issue 99
http://www.alistapart.com/stories/journey/

This doesn't help with your particular problem, but should clarify the issue

-----Original Message-----
From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
[mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of DC
Sent: 07 March 2001 09:01
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] frameborder=0

>  ><frame frameborder="0">
>>(See http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/present/frames.html#h-16.2.2)
>
>nope, that <em>still</em> leaves a white border betwen the frames...
>
>i'm begining to think it can't be done.  here's my frameset

If your problem is that you cannot lose the frame borders despite
using the attributes which *should* lose them, this is something I
have encountered in some browsers, notably IE5/Mac. The only way I
could get rid of the frame borders was to remove the <!doctype>
declaration.

I discovered this when in desperation I rebuilt a page from the
ground up, starting with just <html>,<head> and the frameset tags -
as I added elements, everything worked absolutely perfectly until I
inserted the <!doctype>, when the white borders reappeared....

DC

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