james, :~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ : From: James Aylard : : Ah, so my memory was only *slightly* faulty. : ;) It does look as though your suggestion : would make the scripts that much more reliable. : Thanks for the refresher. :~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ a nice bonus is that if the browser doesn't retrieve the external files for whatever reason (maybe it's been saved locally) it won't throw errors cause it'll use the pre-defined variables and dummy functions. thanks, .jeff name://jeff.howden game://web.development http://www.evolt.org/ mailto:jeff at members.evolt.org