[thelist] JSP vs ASP vs PHP vs CF

Philippe Jadin philippe.jadin at 123piano.com
Fri Mar 23 14:55:20 CST 2001


> Before this thread even starts, don't forget Cold Fusion, equally
> formidable in the realm of web programming.

<intro source="http://www.vnunet.com/print/601940">
"If you want a state-of-the-art website then you've got two basic choices,"
says Vignette's Pearson. "Option one is you get about 60 per cent of the
work done by hiring a slew of programmers, locking them in a room for six
months, and hoping for the best. Option two is buying in software which
gives you all the basic work plus tools which allow you to customise."
</intro>

Maybe you could add the open source Zope (www.zope.org) as it is imho the
most inovative web app. dev. framework. I insist on the word "framework",
because with zope you really get more than a scripting language.

Most common tasks can be build with zope without too much programming. For
example, you don't need to create a gui to update your website. It's already
there. User management too. The same goes for templates, database, external
access (for example with an _ftp_ access to your database of objects...)

The scripting in zope is done with python. There is also a templating
langage, called dtml, so you don't easily end up having logic in your
presentation templates.

I used php for 1-2 year, and I discovered zope. Everything that took a few
weeks with php could be made in a couple of hours with zope. Wether I'm a
dumb guy, or my projects fitted well in zope, I got the results expected,
faster.

I recommend anyone interested in web dev to install zope and try it for at
least 2 hours (the minimum to understand what it _really_ is). It's 3 mb
download, and you you can install it in 3 minutes on windows, and 1 minute
on linux ;-).

Definitely worth the try.

Philippe Jadin





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