I thought I was pretty slick at HTML - the browsers just keep throwing me curve balls. This time it is a complex nested table inside a table cell with a background image. What I am trying to do is get the table (containing the words search nlm, a text box and go button) spaced in the center of the cell. presently it is squished at the top. the offending URL http://www.netlivemusic.com/ close up http://www.netlivemusic.com/includes/header.php -- Cayley Vos, Principal 360.714.8395 office 360.223.7799 cell http://NetPaths.net _______________________________ web design | e-commerce | i-marketing