Hi Ray, Sounds like an interesting presentation ... and a lot of interest in it. I didn't want to bug you for a copy ... but if you turn it into an evolt article ... I'd certainly go check it out ... hint, hint? ;-) RonL. -----Original Message----- From: Josh Spiegel [mailto:joshsquared at yahoo.com] I would like a copy too if its not a lot of trouble.