yeah, wildly off topic, so let's deal with the payment up front <tip> need to validate your pages often? try the bookmarklets at gazingus http://www.gazingus.org/weblog/2001/03/#bookmarklets </tip> pioneer 10, thought dead since last year, has been heard from again http://spaceprojects.arc.nasa.gov/Space_Projects/pioneer/PNStat.html pioneer 10 is presently 22 light-hours from the earth, or 12 billion kilometres -- by comparison, the sun is only 8 light minutes from the earth, 150 million kilometres check out the second last faq, how they aim the spacecraft with freon rudy.ca