> Now, being a programmer and not a search engine guy (not looked into it > for a fair few years) could anyone give me some advice on how to make > that site better for the search engines Start by reading everything here: http://www.searchenginewatch.com/webmasters/index.html Then: http://www.submit-it.com/subopt.htm Lots of reading, but no simple answers - or we'd ALL be #1! Of course stay away from automatic submissions, and too much trickery, which can get you bounced for good! Good luck, Sandy