[thelist] VIRUS!!

Daniel S. O'Shea doshea at surfree.com
Mon Jul 23 22:15:22 CDT 2001


[Post reply snip from Jeanne Edna Thewell]

> Umm, this is what lawyers call "post hoc ergo propiter hoc"
> reasoning: B happened after A, therefore A caused B.
>
> Not really likely.  At least a dozen people I know have gotten hit
> with virus over the past two days.  Could it have come from someone
> on this list? Sure, I suspect that most people are getting it through
> email lists.  Did someone on this list send it to you
> *intentionally*?  I think that's highly unlikely.

Six times in one day from the same person????

I think highly it is. Especially when I've received several hundred emails a
day and for a year have not received one virus. Below is the same header in
all six, starting the day after the disagreement.

In-reply-to:
<20010723003051.HBCY13138.femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com at c983847-a.potlnd1.or.h
ome.com>

>The timing -- shortly after you had a disagreement on this list -- is
>almost certainly coincidental.

Here's another good quote, "The greatest tragedy in all history is the
murder of a beautiful theory by a gang of brutal facts." - Anonymous

Fact- Past year:
Hundreds of emails a day, no viruses.
6 million hits, no viruses.
Disagreement on July 22, 2001
6 emails, from one IP, with the same Virus.

That's one hell of an amazing coincidence in your theory. Hmm, the
probabilities weigh heavily in favor of my position. This is what is called
"Probabilities and Statistics- The Futures Game" - By Teweles and Jones.
Excellent reading, one of the best books I've ever read.

[Post reply snip from Gord Grisenthwaite>
>I think it's unprofessional to suggest that the people who use this list
>would resort to germ warfare over a silly disagreement. I think it's rather
>childish, actually. Grow up, Massimo.

Two things, your assumption that I "..suggest that the people who use this
list would resort to germ warfare.." is false. 99% of the people on this
list I absolutely appreciate and would trust. As a matter of fact, you
intentionally looked past my statement, "Do I believe the virus sent to me
was by individual who disagreed with me? No, 100%, no." How is it you can
disregard that statement and hop to the next illogical conclusion that I
believe 'people'? I said, "..person." Do I believe ONE person could do this,
absolutely. Second, I think it's rather naive of you to believe that a
person would NOT SIGN UP ON THIS LIST just to wreak havoc. Isn't that
basically what these types do, develop, seek and destroy. How dare you to be
so naive. Thinking like yours and none of us would have an anti-virus
protection program! I had six million hits on my site last year, hundreds of
emails a day and NO VIRUS. After that disagreement, I get SIX emails from
the same person with different subject headings but the same message header,
from the same IP. (See above) Want proof, I can send you each one!!

So what can I do? Just get rid of them and not let anyone know on this
list?? Or I could at least let the list know what is a very REAL
POSSIBILITY, that yes, there is, oh no, not my beloved list =-O someone evil
enough to be doing this.

Even under these personal attacks, I'll accept them, because a vast majority
of this list I overwhelmingly appreciate, and would rather accept these
attacks if just one person here is kept from having to spend time to clean
up his system!!!!

Good luck all, safe developing.

Dan O.

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the company name. Here is the direct link to the System Suite which includes
FIX-IT, http://www.ontrack.com/systemsuite/ and the main URL
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Jeanne Edna Thelwell
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 7:45 PM
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: Re: [thelist] VIRUS!!

> >For those of you who may have a disagreement with anyone on the
> list, please
> >beware. On Sunday I had a disagreement on this list concerning XP. Since
> >then, I've received 6 emails that have an attached file that contains the
> >W32.Sircam.Worm at mm virus.
> >
> >Fortunately, I have Norton's Professional Edition and have all
> files scanned
> >prior to opening, hence, my system lock's my file up before I
> can open it.
> >Beautiful program.
> >
> >Do I believe the virus sent to me was by that individual? No,
> 100%, no. Do I
> >believe possibly it was sent by someone else on this list? Yes.
> Last year I
> >had almost 6 million hits on my site and not one email with a
> virus on it.
> >This year, with the numbers running better, I had no email with
> a virus in
> >it until after Sunday's disagreement.
> >
> >Being the Irish rogue I am, I can have a knock down fight one
> night and buy
> >the same person a cold brew the next. So no skin off my back.
> This is just
> >to let the list know, it's possible someone who may disagree
> with a post of
> >yours, possibly will send you this virus.
> >
> >Of course, when I tried to send the email back, it came back with MAIL
> >DELIVERY FAILURE. I don't care whose sending them as I now have
> their email
> >forwarded to my deleted file. Just a warning.
> >
> >Dan O.
> >
> ><TIP>While Norton's and McAfee's Virus protection programs are
> some of the
> >most well known, a very nice program called 'Fix It' is worth
> it's bang for
> >a buck. Once purchased the updates have been free for almost two
> years, and
> >it has a Utility feature to fix files and registry items. </TIP>





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