hi javier the timing couldn't have been worse the Great Bridge company, which was created to develop a commercial version of PostgreSQL, has given up http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO63600,00.html i love the irony of the great big honking ugly ad for oracle in the middle of the article -- i wonder whose idea it was for that delicious bit of juxtaposition rudy