[thelist] xssi serving up separate css

[Paul Backhouse]

IE 3 - wow, thought that was in a museum!
i remembe the days when netscape was it - nothing could touch it.

mozilla - yep a stunning quick browser - where have netscape gone wrong?

640 x 480...hmmmm stone age stuff - lowest i prefer to go i 800 x 600 and
thats not by choice so i started asking our designers for a site 800 wide
but with a 1024 x 768 height - slightly like how the yahoo site etc are
built.

The end of the day 1024 x 768 will become the 800 x 600 (not for a fair
while, but not short off 2-3 years).
XML - i really want to learn it - ive dabbled, well got my toe to the edge
of the water but never actually touched it!

Opera - almost identical to IE isn't it?

our designers hate compromising their design - so the good old developer
have to take the site and get it working - i really hate our designers - not
all of them - just a selected few and its only when they start sitting on
their high and might artist flair chair - i tell you, theres been many a
time when ive wanted to light a match!

cheers

paul


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Subject: RE: [thelist] xssi serving up separate css


 >what about you Morbus - what are your standards?

Welp, in new sites (new sites is key - disobey.com is full of sites
initially created in 1997, so they're old and not so good <g>):

   - XHTML 1 Transitional (rationale: easily parsable by
     XML processors/custom code, so thus, easily convertable
     to new designs, databases, etc.)
   - CSS 1, with ignorable CSS2. Removing the style sheet
     should make the site look relatively the same.
   - Validation under the W3 pages for both XHTML and CSS
     (I've got bookmarklets that I can simply click and have
     the current page validated through the browser).
     http://tantek.com/favelets/
   - Sites are tested on:
       Mozilla .9x, Netscape 4 (mac/pc)
       IE 4, 5(.1), 6 (mac/pc)
       Opera (pc) and iCab (mac)
       Lynx proxy: http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview.html
       When I'm really anal, I have a laptop with IE 3 and NS 3.
   - Site previewed with 640x480, 800x600, and my current 1000x.
   - Exact design conformance. "Degrading" is a bad term to use
     here. I'll spend three days trying to figure out how to remove
     five pixels of space from a Netscape form tag. Or how to
     make heading text look exactly the same everywhere. Ultimately,
     I want a site to look *exactly* the same in every browser I
     test against. If it doesn't, my design isn't generic enough.
   - I try to get Bobby approved, but it's super anal.
     http://www.cast.org/bobby/
   - I compare site to the WAI/WCAG: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG/
   - I use no client side scripting. I've never learnt it. No desire to.
   - I make sure my URLs are friendly. I don't have an
     article on this, but it ensures that 404s never happen,
     URLs are easily modifiable, indexes in every parent directory,
     and so on and so forth. all URLs are always search engine
     friendly as well.
   - And other minor things I'm sure I'm missing (hey, it's
     a quick mental list whilst I'm at work - gimme a break).

Most of this is just from the coding aspect. I haven't even
touched some of the crap I make sure of on the design itself.


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