[thelist] MSN locks out non IE browsers

Jeremy Ashcraft ashcraft at 13monkeys.com
Mon Oct 29 02:21:26 CST 2001

> They're not, but they ARE forcing me to use their latest
> and greatest browser to view their site.  Who is MSN to
> dictate what browser I use to view their content?

> uh, they are.  on the flipside, who are *you* to dictate that they support
> *your* browser of choice?  if you don't like the conditions for use of
> their site then don't visit it.

I know they are, and that's what's bullshit about it.  No one ever said they 
HAD to support my browser, but why can't I use whatever browser I want?  Its  
not for them to decide how I view their site.  If it looks fucked up, that's 
my choice.  

What's stopping them from doing this with every other piece of software they 
make?  Nothing, and that's what's so bad about all of this.  To tell the 
truth, I've never visited MSN before this and never plan to in the future.

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> > What's wrong with a popup telling me the site may not
> > function or appear correctly with the browser I use?
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> not likely to work for people who have javascript turned off.  not likely
> to work for people who use ad and popup blocking software.  that pretty
> much leaves the option of giving "unsupported" browsers a big white screen
> with the message of the day.

True, but there are better ways of letting me know than completely blocking 
me out.  Where are the links to NN6?  What happens when Mozilla becomes 
compliant?  MSN is just a portal and has nothing to do with IE, right?

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> > I don't want to seem like one of those "communist" linux
> > zealots(which I am), but M$ continues to thumb its nose
> > at the justice department and keeps up the same
> > practices its already been found guilty of.
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> and had those charges summarily dropped as well.

Actually no, just the ruling to split up the company.  The new judge did 
uphold the findings of guilt, just said that a new punishment needed to be 

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