[thelist] MSN locks out non IE browsers

[me]

It wont be long and we'll all be spending M$dollars.

I personally think its time for bill to take a valium and chill.

This move has nothing to do with compat


me.



----- Original Message -----
From: profjj <thelist at cbizz.net>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 1:02 PM
Subject: RE: [thelist] MSN locks out non IE browsers


> Mr. Forsberg,
>
> This was for jeff, however ~~>
> :~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<~>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<~>~~~~~~~~<~>~~~~~~~~~~>>
> :From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> :[mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Andrew Forsberg
> :Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 4:14 PM
> :To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> :Subject: RE: [thelist] MSN locks out non IE browsers
> :
> :Hi Jeff
> :
> :>and if they choose to guarantee that browsers that'll make their site
look
> :>"fucked up" can't see the site at all, that's their right.
> :
> :Guy walks into a menswear store -- "I want to try on those shoes" --
> :"I'm sorry sir, those are Patrick Cox shoes, and you're wearing red
> :socks. I'm afraid I can't let you do that."
> :
> :Sure the shoes would look wrong on red socks, but a punter's a
> :punter. The punter is there because they're interested in some
> :Microsoft product, or Microsoft-related product / service. It doesn't
> :make good business sense to turn people away, IMHO.
> :
> :>pop quiz:  what software vendor makes the most software for the mac?
> :
> :Before or after Microsoft bought a very large number of Apple shares?
> :And, being picky, is it 'the most software' or 'the largest Mac
> :development team outside Apple itself.' Either way, the logic of this
> :is clear to me -- the logic behind, and supposed benefits of,
> :actively blocking users escapes me entirely.
> :
> :>  ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> :>  > True, but there are better ways of letting me know than
> :>>  completely blocking me out.
> :>><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> :>
> :>not if they want to prevent the site from being displayed in a messed up
> :>manner.  how would you do it?
> :~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<~>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<~>~~~~~~~~<~>~~~~~~~~~~>>
>
> :<~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~>:
> :The site's db backed? The developers are using templates? Errrrr:
> :provide an alternate template that doesn't look like shite for
> :non-compliant browsers? Just like the rest of us would if we couldn't
> :be bothered coding it to look ok in the preferred template. :)
> :<~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~>:
>
> Firstly, designing to accomodate other sites ~ no designer loves that, and
> in ms's case, what's the point, when they have other things to take care
of.
> The simplest thing to do is design for their own browser.
>
> Not to be abrupt, but if I don't want a certain browser/s to view my site,
> then that's my choice.(It's my site - the same way that at the end of the
> day what i say goes).  The main reason that the ability exists means that
> hey, it's there to be used when necessary (I not killing anyone by using
> it), if they wanna use my site, adhere to my rules.
>
> My point, - if you're going to a party, and the dress code is /*formal*/ -
> you turn up in shorts, slippers, and a vest.  Will you get upset when you
> are not admitted?
>
> Same here, the site is MS's website, they want you to view it with certain
> browser/s, that's their choice.  If nobody likes that they have options,
buy
> msn and call the shots, or just don't go there.  Do you have to lose by
not
> going to msn.com?
>
> tx,
>
> [[:profjj:]]
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