>>This isn't just about making the developers' lives easier (although that >>must be a factor in this industry), but the subsequent reduction of future >>development times and costs >How is that making the user's life easier? Time that is currently wasted by dorking around the code, trying to make something work for old browsers, could be spent developing new site features and content. I'm currently in a very small IT department -- the only designer/html person, I hand off the mostly-finished code to the developer who slots it into his C program. The company, however, has a LOT of users - $2million plus annual internet sales. Customers who want us to offer all the function and glory that they see at Amazon.com. But there's only one of me. And I'd realllllly rather spend my time developing requested, needed features, function and content than mucking about trying to get things to work in NN4.7. That's why making the developers' lives easier will make the users lives easier. >>The main development of the public and intranet access websites is keyed >>on the fact that the design and code must work for all these users. >And that's your problem to solve. Now I can see that for you, coding once >is ideal, rather than doing complex browser detection and serving. >But I'm a user and I don't care. See rant above. I'm a user of this list on digest mode. I don't care why some people are not snipping their posts. I don't care why some sigs are twelve paragraphs long. it's making my user experinece here really rather annoying.