[thelist] Alternatives to Frames? (was: Jumping In With Both Feet, Part 2

Chad Savage jg3_savage at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 13 14:36:22 CST 2001


--- Rebecca Milot-Bradford
<RMilot-Bradford at nsca-lift.org> wrote:
> > 
> > The only way I know of to avoid this is through a
> > frameset.
> 
> Or you could use style sheets to place the include
> on the page. For
> instance, put <div class="navigation"> in the
> include file. Then use the
> style sheet to position .navigation on the page.


--- rudy <r937 at interlog.com> wrote:
> > What I mean is, I want to have the nav stay in
> place
> > once the site is open. Having it on each page,
> regardless
> > of how I decide to put it there, means it will
> 'start over'
> > every time a user clicks through to another page.
> 
> hi chad
> 
> one way to deal with this is to ensure the nav bar
> is very "light" by
> eliminating...

*snip*

The Gods of Clear Communication must be angry with me.

As I mentioned in my original post, the Navigation is
a *Flash movie*, so while I'll certainly take your
advice under advisement for other elements of my site,
it doesn't help in this particular instance.

Take a look at http://www.sinistervisions.com -- when
you click through from page to page, the navigation
reloads (from the cache) each time, which is very
disruptive to the overall experience.

To: List -

It's been a while since I thought about frames or the
pros or cons; So long, in fact, that I've forgotten
what The Big Objection is to them?

What's the thinking regarding the use of iFrames?

At the risk of opening up a can of worms, I'd be
interested to hear opinions on the use of frames in a
website, while keeping the following in mind:

1] Yes, they can be horribly misused. I don't need
anybody to tell me that - if I use them, it will only
be as much as necessary, and I'll be referring to the
W3C for proper implementation.

2] If you don't like them just because you don't like
them... well, great, but that doesn't tell me
anything, so don't bother saying so unless you have
reasons I (or anybody besides you) might care about.

Soo... whaddya think?

Thanks!

Chad

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