There's an interesting back and forth on Dave Winer's scripting.com website right now dealing with the CSS vs. Tables debate. Lots of well articulated opinions. -- Our best destiny, as planetary cohabitants, is the development of what has been called "species consciousness" - something over and above nationalisms, blocs, religions, ethnicities. Frank Marion Framar Studios frank at framarstudios.com http://www.framarstudios.com