[thelist] [Simple layout] I want to reach the standards

[Ken Kogler]

This is slightly off-topic since you asked for help in debugging your
stylesheets, but consider it food for thought:

Since you're trying to reach the broadest base of people possible, you
may want to consider at least using *some* tables for your layout. If a
non-CSS browser visits your site, they get a whole lot of plain text,
and they have to go sorting through it to find the relevant information.

You may want to consider making the most basic page structure in a
table, like this:

+--------------+
|              |
+---+----------+
|   |          |
|   |          |
|   |          |
+---+----------+

And then apply colors, text formatting, etc via the style sheets.

Hth,
Ken

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of
> [Gauthier at PlacidSound]
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 1:34 PM
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: [thelist] [Simple layout] I want to reach the standards
>
>
> Hi here,
>
> I'm currently finding my way about web design and i want to
> put my best to
> reach the standardisation instead of the 'batardisation'
> (netscape4, ie4,
> all these browser that doesn't comply with standards...).
>
> I currently have a basic layout (see http://wisard.net) that
> was made with:
> -ARGGHH many tables
> -ARGHHH many spacers
> -ARGHHH many 1px width or height cells....
>
> in sumary: many things that the standards reject
> (please don't flame me about crap design, I'm not a designer ;)
>
>  I want to adapt this layout with the standard such as CSS1
> and strict XHTML
> specification (see http://194.250.105.2/evolt/layout.gif)
>
> what did I have currently done:
> http://194.250.105.2/evolt/index.html
> http://194.250.105.2/evolt/style.css
>
> the problem that occurs are
> -i can't success to put the menu on the left side and the
> content directly
> on his right side
> -i'm having problem with the 'width:100%;' in mozilla
> http://194.250.105.2/evolt/mozilla.gif
> http://194.250.105.2/evolt/ie6.gif
>
> My goal is to simplify the old table layout code, whenever if
> it doesn't
> display in 4.xxx browsers, and to have a standard compliant
> layout that have
> a true cross standard-compliant browser compatibility (lasts ie, lasts
> opera, mozilla...)
>
> Any help, reference, advice will be cool!
>
> Thanks a lot a lot ;)
>
> Gauthier
>
> PS: this list is incredibely active, thanks for all the
> helpers and I also
> put a big thanks for those who are behind this :)
>
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