Joel, |Off the top of my head, try virtual="/scripts/news/headlines.txt" instead of |the fully qualified path. And if you use file, the file has to be in the |same directory as the calling include. Thus the use of 'virtual' for a |virtual path off the webroot. Thud! (Sound of head hitting keyboard. Yep, that works, with a <base href> tag :-P Thanks! Gina