[thelist] RE: [ - Examples of Importing XML into Netscape or Mozilla? - ] - Jeff

Michael Kimsal michael at tapinternet.com
Thu May 23 07:38:01 CDT 2002


Peter Thoenen wrote:

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>>>From: Peter Thoenen
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>>>We are not here to discuss bugs [...]
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>>oh?  surely these bugs hamper the ability to develop
>>proper web-based
>>applications, no?
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>Not at all.  Visual rendering bugs do NOT break web
>applications.  Your application should work in lynx.
>May not be visually pleasing but works.  Visual don't
>aren't a show stopper.  See my thoughts on http1.0
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As more and more people start coding CSS, XML and Javascript to
enhance both the development experience (faster) and the end
user experience (more interaction without large round trips to the server)
the browsers are starting to *need* a stronger application-type interface.
The fact that there are some browsers that *can* do this and some
that can't will mean that more people will continue to use the one(s)
which can give a better end user experience for web applications.




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>As a developer I don't.  I have access to the code, I
>expect it to work.  If it doesn't, I will run it
>through my handy PHP IDE and track everything.  If you
>soley rely on a browser view source to track bugs for
>your web applications, I am sorry.  When the browser
>starts showing SSI or server side languages (which you
>are going to need for an web application)..just maybe
>I might decide a browser belong on my web application
>tool list.  Until then, I will continue to use it for
>what it was meant for, display web pages (and to
>visually troubleshoot my web designs..!applications)
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So if something doesn't look right to a client you tell them - "hey,
just run it
via my Zend IDE and you'll see all my variables are correct!".  Good answer.

Me?  I prefer to test things in the browser(s) which the majority of the
end users will use.  If that means coding around 'visual oddities'
or known browser bugs to ensure a good experience for them, so be it.  Call
me crazy I guess, but not everyone has a PHP IDE to run stuff through.
(I figured most hardcore people that take your stance re:Mozilla
use Notepad anyway, but that's a different story) :)

MK






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