[thelist] Frames comeback?

Peter-Paul Koch gassinaumasis at hotmail.com
Wed Jul 31 04:48:00 CDT 2002


>What happened was that Jakob complained about all kinds of aspects of Flash
>over the years. One main problem he noted was the lack of "back-button"
>support.
>
>Now when Flash MX was released, Macromedia touted it as *the* one-stop
>website authoring tool. To have this succeed, they needed to silence
>Jakob's constant niggling about accessibility, it was bad for their image.
>So Jakob was duly hired as consultant.
>He now had the problem that he had to find a way of retracting all the
>derogatory comments he had made about Flash over the years.

Right, that's clear. I'm glad it's all Jakob's fault, as usual.

>In their new blueprint apps, showing developers how to code Flash-only
>(sic) websites, they embed their .swf file in an invalid frameset. Then
>they use a hidden frame with a Javascript proxy. Each time a user clicks a
>link in the Flash site, the command is sent to the hidden frame, the
>Javascript proxy triggers whatever the link should do in the .swf file.
>So... the result is that windows users with IE5.5+ will have the
>back-button back - not due to any major technical development in Flash MX,
>but simply due to the use of old DHTML hacks, long-since discarded by any
>serious webdevelopers.

How lovely...

>The downside is that a whole generation of Flash coders are being led to
>think that embedding their .swf file inside  malformed framesets is good
>for accessibility...

Then we need to educate them.

>
>like in this tutorial:
>http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?id=8780&method=full
>
>Or as used in this blueprint application:
>http://examples.macromedia.com/petmarket/flashstore_800.html

How lovely, truly lovely...

>And Jakob being enthusiastic about framesets:
>http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/mx/blueprint/articles/nielsen.html
>He obviously only uses IE5.5+, and doesn't do a "view-source" when
>reviewing a webpage...

Actually he doesn't mention frames at all. He just applauds the Back button,
and applauds, and applauds...

Thanks,

ppk

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