> May I humbly submit > http://www.tmobile.com > to this thread.. the (translucent) menus were done jointly by a colleague > and I (i think -- > though maybe he did more than I come to think of it) > > But this is the CSS route - no checkerboard images in sight. You should > see the effect in winIE5.5+ and NN6+/Mozilla. Just rollover the topnav. > It's deliberately subtle, but there. Also features css drop shadows. IE6/W2K - nothing! No drop-downs, no changes, no what-ever-you-are-touting. Nice in Moz though!