Google also appears to have some new info up for webmasters: http://www.google.com/webmasters/ (Scroll to bottom for juicy links too.) To quickly check a site's position for a given term, try: http://www.technorati.com/juice.html jd John Dowdell, Macromedia Developer Support, San Francisco (Best to reply on-list, to avoid my mighty spam filters!) Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ Column: http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/jd_forum/ Technical daily diary: http://jdmx.blogspot.com/