Hi Rob, One way would be to dump the db entry, save it as a text file, and then view it in an editor that supports hex mode. (I use UltraEdit-32 but I'm pretty sure a lot of editors will let you do that.) Another way would be to write a routine to go through that field, character-by-character, print the ascii code and look for "odd" or 'out-of-range' entries. The simplest way is to delete the db entry and retype it by hand ... as opposed to copying it from Word or something. This way won't tell you if you had an elf ... but it may make the problem go away. (Which is kind of an indirect proof I guess.) HTH, RonL. -----Original Message----- From: Rob Smith [mailto:rob.smith at THERMON.com] >Can you check the db entry in hex? umm... how do you do that?