Just finished reading "UI Design Update Newsletter – December, 2002" URI: http://www.humanfactors.com/downloads/dec02.asp I thought most of what it had to say was very good (they talk about points for font size, but other than that....) These two items struck my attention: 18. Do carefully consider the task being performed before making decisions about using or not using frames, because some uses of frames will degrade performance. 36. Do design Web sites with the links in a frame on the left margin, because users preferred the frames rather than having the links scroll off the page. TjL -- Timothy Luoma <luomat at operamail.com> 30 Days to Becoming an Opera (6) Lover http://tntluoma.com/opera/lover/ (an Opera7 version will follow once it is officially released) Opera Etc Blog: http://tntluoma.com/beyond30