Hi, <----- Original Message ----- <From: "Brothercake" <cake at brothercake.com> <I'm the author of http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex1/topmen3/ <FYI - topmenu 3 offers much wider browser support, is more stable in 4- <version browsers, and is more finely configurable. Nice menu. > Joshua Olson <joshua at waetech.com> > > http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex1/topmen4/ Also a nice menu. Did you however take note that it was not free if you're developing websites professionally? http://www.milonic.co.uk/menu/reqlic.php The main problem with both above menus is that they are not search-engine friendly. (to say nothing of them not being accessible, not working with Javascript disabled etc etc) If you decide to use a menu like this, you should include the same links as it uses between <noscript> tags - these will then allow search-engines to spider your site. Take for instance the v3 msdn-clone example: http://brothercake.com/dropdown/msdn.html A search-engine (or pda/mobile/screenreader/nonJavascript etc) visiting this page sees none of the links, and can't crawl the site: http://gritechnologies.com/tools/spider.go?q=brothercake.com/dropdown/msdn.h tml The only two links that show are to the .js file, and a .gif. By comparison a similar menu discussed by Stephen Taylor in his evolt.org article performs much better in that regard: The menu: http://evolt.org/evolt/files/54210/54234/micone.htm links found: http://gritechnologies.com/tools/spider.go?q=evolt.org/evolt/files/54210/542 34/micone.htm The article: http://evolt.org/article/A_Corporate_Redesign_Part_I/17/54234/index.html Personally that looks like a more interesting solution, given a little work... Richard.