Hey Carl, Here are some sites you might look at: http://css.nu/pointers/bugs-nn.html#NN4 http://developer.netscape.com/support/bugs/known/css.html http://www.xs4all.nl/~ppk/css2tests/intro.html http://www.mako4css.com/Issues.htm I tried to validate the html and got a number of errors on the validation, so I would start with getting the html to validate first. Actually, the design is simple enough to eliminate the layout table altogether and do in xhtml with css for presentation. Even poor netscape 4 should be able to see it. - chris