Tom, I went through this just last week; same as you did. I went through the entire form, etc. just as you had done at around 5:30 am, especially since all of the sites like PayPal, Amazon, etc. have been doing extra little add-ons "for my security" etc. It didn't seem too far out of line from what I'd been doing and I was still a zombie. In fact, it didn't really occur to me until later and I ended up having to contact all of the credit bureaus and putting myself on a temporary fraud status--they force creditors to contact you directly, so instant credit is no longer an option, in the short term--PayPal temporarily placed a hold on my account and I opened all new accounts at my bank and watched them with a pretty intense degree of scrutiny. Paypal was less than helpful--to the point of making me feel even more ridiculous than I already did, which is a great feeling when you're already feeling stupid and helpless and wondering just who is getting a passport with your name on it or withdrawing what's left of your bank accounts. I would imagine that they do take a look into these things, but mostly they appear to be hands-off and customer support-off. Good luck, Russ > -----Original Message----- > From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org > [mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of > tkissinger at softhome.net > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:37 AM > To: thelist at lists.evolt.org > Subject: [thelist] Credit Card Scams, Legal Measures > > > Hi people, > > I got a Paypal scam mail today, the third or fourth I've got > in the last > couple of months. it was realistic enough that I was blithely > filling it in > (yeah, it arrived before the coffee), until it asked for a > bank PIN number. > I've seen them for other sites too - Amazon, eBay, etc. > > I'm sure that the victims of these scams can get their cards > blocked and > reissued without too much trouble, but do the sites that the > scammers are > using names and livery from have any legal recourse? I'd > imagine that Paypal > have considerably more legal resources than, say, my Dad, if > he mistakenly > fills one in. > > Thanks, > Tom. > -- > * * Please support the community that supports you. * * http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ Evolt.org conference in London, July 25-27 2003. Register today at http://evolt.org.uk For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !